According to Francis on
his plane back from Armenia,
Church “must ask Forgiveness” of Homosexuals because “Who are we to Judge?!”.
“Martin Luther “did not err” on
Justification; “All of us are Saints, because all of us have the Holy
Spirit”
Francis officially says that he is in the same boat with Martin Luther, the man that says that Faith alone is what saves!
He is NOW clearly preaching the same heresy Martin
Luther preached and which was condemned by the Council of Trent!
Francis says that his religion, the evil Novus ordo
Religion believes the same thing!
Here is the full excerpts of what Francis said!
Please read carefully and note in particular the
Red:
[Tilmann] Kleinjung [questioner]: Too much beer …
Holy Father, I wanted to ask you a question. Today you spoke of the gifts of
the shared Churches, of the gifts shared by the Churches together. Seeing that
you will go in I believe four months to Lund for the commemoration of the 500th
anniversary of the reformation, I think perhaps this is also the right moment
for us not only to remember the wounds on both sides but also to recognize the
gifts of the reformation. Perhaps also – this is a heretical question – perhaps
to annul or withdraw the excommunication of Martin Luther or of some sort of
rehabilitation. Thank you.
Pope Francis: I think that
the intentions of Martin Luther were not mistaken. He was a reformer. Perhaps
some methods were not correct.
But in that time, if we read the story of the
Pastor, a German Lutheran who then converted when he saw reality – he became
Catholic – in that time, the Church was not exactly a model to imitate.
There was corruption in the Church, there was
worldliness, attachment to money, to power...and this he protested. Then he was
intelligent and took some steps forward justifying, and because he did this. And today Lutherans
and Catholics, Protestants, all of us agree on the doctrine of justification.
On this point, which is very important, he did not err.
He made a
medicine for the Church, but then this medicine consolidated into a state of
things, into a state of a discipline, into a way of believing, into a way of
doing, into a liturgical way and he wasn’t alone; there was Zwingli, there was
Calvin, each one of them different, and behind them were who? Principals! We
must put ourselves in the story of that time. It’s a story that’s not easy to
understand, not easy. Then things went forward, and today the dialogue is very
good.
That document of justification I think is one of the richest
ecumenical documents in the world, one in most agreement. But
there are divisions, and these also depend on the Churches. In Buenos Aires
there were two Lutheran churches, and one thought in one way and the
other...even in the same Lutheran church there was no unity; but they respected
each other, they loved each other, and the difference is perhaps what hurt all
of us so badly and today we seek to take up the path of encountering each other
after 500 years. I think that we have to pray together, pray. Prayer is
important for this. Second, to work together for the poor, for the persecuted,
for many people, for refugees, for the many who suffer; to work together and
pray together and the theologians who study together try...but this is a long
path, very long. One time jokingly I said: I know when full unity will happen.
- “when?” - “the day after the Son of Man comes,” because we don’t know...the
Holy Spirit will give the grace, but in the meantime, praying, loving each
other and working together. Above all for the poor, for the people who suffer
and for peace and many things...against the exploitation of people and many
things in which they are jointly working together.
(“Full text: Pope Francis' in-flight press conference from Armenia”,
Catholic News Agency, Click here)
Presented by Malachy Igwilo, within the octave of the Nativity of John the Baptist, 27th June, 2016
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